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First class nonsense. Boardwalk and Baseball, out there in Polk county. If he ever had an issue, his stance might change, and it might become a bigger issue to him. All I remember is girls in neon color tiny bikins and my mom telling me I can't go to the pool because it was for adults. USV contributed again in this round.

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Beat that one. Anyone wishing to know more, without automatically going to the word "lynching" is free to contact me. Daisy, I am working with a co-writer to produce a play. Have you ever found the transcripts of the court case? May I ask what part of the country you are in? Perhaps we can find a way to exchange email addresses in private.

The best place to find things would be in the Greenville News archives, since it happened here, or Pickens County. Also, Rebecca West's coverage in the New Yorker. I am at whofan yahoo. I just ran across this site after researching my grandfather It seems one sided though. YES the men did lynch Willie Earle. My grandfather and my father jhas told me the story.

It was a horrible thing and my grandfather was haunted by it for the rest of his life. With that said, where is the interest to the cab driver Willie Earle savagely yes I said savagely murdered. The times were different then but the mind set is still the same today. The cab driver should be recognized. And just one mild correction to the story. Yes all were aquitted, but one did serve time because of stealing a thing of Lance crackers as a kid.

Now figuar that one out. I know its true because my grandfather God rest his haunted soul was the one who stole the crackers and served the time. He admitted playing a role in the lynching, he was the youngest member of the group, and his son my uncle I never met was murdered by a black man who escaped jail and was never caught. We can memorialize anything.

But some things shouldnt. I oppose the memorial unless the cab driver gets one next to his. Murrell is my grandfather. He was not allowed a trial because he was brutally butchered.

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I do agree that Mr. Brown deserves a lot of attention. He was a loving father, husband, and friend, and wounded veteran, who would never approved of what happened to Willie Earle.

I understand your pride in your grandfather. But, in this country, you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Twenty-six of the 31 wrote confessions. I read them. They are at Clemson. I'm terribly sorry about what happened to your uncle, but that is not the responsibility of the entire black community. I hope that this man went to trial. If you are "proud to be a Murrell"--how about you sign your whole name?

Cowardly and afraid to be a Murrell , is obviously more like it. There is none, except the word of a drunken mob. Once more, with feeling: Since there was no trial, officially, Willie Earle is innocent. This is not the Soviet Union. Take your fascist, unAmerican values elsewhere.

Sorry you are proud of your racist DNA and don't even have the moral sense to be ashamed of your murderous relatives. That must be rough, going through life with such an ethical challenge, and you have my deepest sympathies. Thing is, the mob weren't the ones who found the evidence, it was the police. They followed the footprints to the house.

They found the money and the bloody clothing. Not the mob. At least, that is what I got from your narrative. Unless there was evidence that somebody other than Willie lived there, I'd say they had pretty good probable cause to make an arrest. That being said, we'll never get to know what really happened, which is the pity of it.

Mind you, I am a police officer in South Carolina, so I know a bit about the history of the legal system in this area. I can honestly say Willie was doomed from the start, guilty or not. Short of a miracle the police catching somebody who confesses to it a jury would have fried Willie in good conscience. They had a smoking gun, so to speak.

But at least there would have been some facts brought out, maybe some closure for the family. Angry bunch of redneck cab drivers denied the rest of us a significant part of history. You want a memorial for that? You wont, cause he ain't shit. So you have nothing to be proud of about Perry A. Who the hell is that?

Just like he was forgotten, he will not even be remembered. But Willie Earl will!!!!!! Even when you're gone, and your children gone, his reminder that he was here will still be there. Isn't that ironic, a crakkker got time for stealing a cracker, lol, now, isn't that funny.

Now I'll remember that about your grandpappy, a crakkker stole crackers. Maybe we can see if we can get a plaque put up for that. Seeing how proud you are and all. Well, cowardly chickenshit anonymous, we all know what scared wittle anonymous comments are worth. They ain't shit. They are the work of scared wittle boys with teeny tiny balls. I like how you can't spell Willie Earle's name correctly PS: Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

LOVE your goofy-ass, illiterate HEE HAW punctuation and writing; like they say, you take the racist redneck out of the woods but you can't take the woods out of the racist redneck. Perry Murrell was not the name of the deceased in this story, Thomas Watson Brown was his name. Learn to read, ignorant tiny-balls man. Yes, who the hell IS this Murrell you keep talking about , you stupid fuck?

You don't even bother to tell us--you just start babbling. However, being a stupid, racist, fascist, ignorant, thoroughly history-challenged redneck, you can't tell us, since you can't even write two sensible sentences in a row. But this is obviously why you people wore sheets: A "plaque"? I referred to a plaque in comments on my last Bob Jones post, so you undoubtedly are local.

Probably one of the BJU racists. Is this how you learned to spell, write and punctuate at BJU? I knew it was bad, but didn't know it was THAT bad. Due to a new round of linkage, this post has gotten more attention recently. As for the last couple of days, here is what I have so far, the people currently babysitting this post: But surely you can tell me which of these IPs is yours, so I can track you down?

Oh, right, chickenshit cowardly wittle boy. Does mommy know you are up late on her laptop? She'll spank and send you back to BJU, so better scurry on to bed. Please post some more, because I would like to narrow down your location. And if you are proud to be a Murrell, please prove it and post your name next time So you slink around in the shadows, whispering your idiot opinions, afraid to say them out loud and proud.

Hopefully, that means nobody will hear them and they will die out along with you. Keep up the good work. Got another one in the past few minutes: I can easily identify you if I choose to call Greenville Tech and ask who was using the computer with that IP. I used to work there, and I know people. Sloppy, Mr Murrell, just plain sloppy. Don't you know that true anonymity is a thing of the past?

But as I said, keep up the good work. This event happened just two years before I was born. My grandfather was forced at shotgun to join the cab drivers that drove Earle out to the slaughter yard. My great uncle was the jailer the two shotguns were pulled on.

He got the band name from a friend, Ron Quintana, who was brainstorming names for a heavy metal fanzine he was creating, and Metallica was one of the options, the other being "Metal Mania. And Justice for All. He has since been considerably influential due to both the popularity of his band, as well as his drum techniques, such as the double bass drum in the song " One " And Justice for All and "Dyer's Eve".

Since the release of Metallica , Ulrich adopted a less focused and simplified style of drumming, and reduced his kit from a 9-piece to a 7-piece. Between and , Ulrich tried running a record label, the Music Company. The company was a joint venture with Metallica accountant Tim Duffy.

It failed to catch on and folded in the spring Anger " music video. In , Ulrich was the focus of the documentary film, "Mission to Lars". The film by Kate and Will Spicer concerns their journey with their brother Tom, who lives in a care home in Devon , England and who has Fragile X syndrome , to try to meet Ulrich at one of Metallica's gigs in California.

To unwind after certain gigs, Ulrich listens to jazz. Ulrich's drumming style has changed throughout his career. During the s he was known for his fast, aggressive thrash beats. He would often utilize the double bass technique in Latin breakbeats, which became highly popular among heavy metal drummers. Ulrich uses groove in his drum style, including clean and fast double bass beats in many songs and heavy drum fills.

He has been known to drum in sync with the rhythm guitar played by James Hetfield. In April , Ulrich became a vocal opponent of Napster and file sharing as Metallica filed a lawsuit against the company for copyright infringement and racketeering. In July , he testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee after Metallica's entire catalogue, including the then-unfinished track " I Disappear " was found to be freely available for download on the service.

The case was settled out-of-court, resulting in more than , Napster users being banned from the service. We were just so stuck in our controlling ways of wanting to control everything that had to do with Metallica. So we were caught off guard and we had a little bit of a rougher landing on that one than on other times than when we just blindly leaped.

But you know, I'm still proud of the fact that we did leap Ulrich has been an activist in support of expanding access to health care for U. Ulrich has been married three times. His first marriage was in to Debbie Jones, a British woman he met on tour, but they divorced in due to Ulrich's constant absence during the recording of the album Metallica. His second marriage was to Skylar Satenstein, an emergency medicine physician, from to They had two sons before divorcing.

They had one child together. Ulrich is a fan of a wide variety of genres, feeling particularly passionate about jazz music. He is particularly inspired by the influential tenor saxophonist Dexter Gordon , who was Ulrich's godparent. Ulrich, a friend of Noel Gallagher , is a fan of Gallagher's former band Oasis and claimed Gallagher was his inspiration to give up cocaine in I play DRM-free copies instead?

Pirated - nope, I have the license. All of my other games are from GOG, I have also bought licenses to almost all of games I played in my childhood, which were not available legally in my country, the USSR. So if you purchased a title, you have also purchased right to run it. So you can get it from anywhere, so long you use it according to the license.

From any source. I don't think one is obligated to get the data ONLY from the source of license purchase or limited to run binaries provided only from the source of license purchase. But if Fallout would be available from GOG, I would purchase it from them instead - and spare all the troubles.

Sad but true The steam community has vast amounts of games and is dubiously known as a popular gamers platform but i feel I am straying away from it because they are pulling away gamers giving them the idea that they no longer care about customers. Makes me wonder where steam will be in a few years from now Will they still even be in business or will they just be another capitalist monetized company looking for more monetized methods?

Or will they start caring about customers? This is one of the reasons I had to torrent copies of most of my steam games. Its sad to see steam acting this way. They collect data that can and probably will be compromised somewhere along the way. We have so few rights these days against the game juggernauts, I refuse to participate. I won't purchase through steam.

I was an avid "off the shelf" gamer but the industry has gone crazy with greed. Overcharging and under servicing and then wondering why so many people pirate. I have purchased games online in the past only to download hacked versions of the same games so I didn't have to log into my steam account to use them.

It's ridiculous. I want to purchase a game, install a game, play a game and not have to depend on another service to continue using them or possibly not allow me to use them in the future. This is a way of the past and so is my gaming. Forcing a T. Take Our Shit contracts aren't there to provide you a better service.

They are only there to protect their own bottom line or legally stick it to you. I would disagree with you. One can easily find a legal digital copy online, to very acceptable price. Much lower than its used to be. One also gets it instantly, sparing all the CDs and scratch issues. The TOS were available before.

Greed, greed never changes. I will not be buying any more games on steam either. But for a different reason. Steam has had my support over the years because i am a huge half life fan. I bought half life 2 when it came out and was the only game available on steam. I have bought everything there is to do with half life. Even left 4 dead. Where is our episode 3.

They have not even given a hint of anything. Not even said a peep. It has been longer since episode 2 than it has been from half life 1 to half life 2. It is my impression that they are not concerned with half life any more and have gotten nice and fat off steam. They have more than enough resources.

More than enough money. They just have decided not to. So the next game i buy on steam might be half life 3 but dont care if i play cracked version or not. How about if someone started a lawsuit and had their legal expenses "crowd funded"? Wouldn't that bypass the class action definition?

Don't let on to Steam or they'll come up with a new term of service specifically relating to denying anyone the ability to have their lawsuit crowd funded. I always thought I am the only one who hates Steam for what they do. Sadly, as evidenced several times in local JRC think GameStop, if you're american , the amount of non-Steam games is really going down.

I've been having problems with Steam for a long time now, ranging from trivial their. I was also at one point really worried that my collection is gone, after logging in to Steam service and seeing only one game the one I had installed at that moment. Luckily, it was only temporary and restored a day later, but I fully understand the guy whose "kill switch" got triggered and he had his library wiped.

For many people, videogames are the only - or almost only - outlet for frustration in today's world, so losing them all so suddenly can be a major shock. No worries, I use steam because it's easier than pirating. If they ever change that, game developers will stop getting my money, and the torrents will rise again.

Make it easy, make it reasonable, or perish like the rest of the dinosaurs. I'm going to enjoy the product either way. Losing my account means a few days redownloading from someone that doesn't bother paying the developers for their work, so no big deal to me. If you loose your account, then you can't just redownload from someone. You need to re-purchase the licenses.

So from what I see, most have no issues purchasing the licenses. They have issues with using the product, because integrated non-optional license check system DRM interferes with product itself. And there is also a risk to loosing all of the licenses, if user breaks account license, because they are connected with the account. This is something very very very wrong. Licenses to products and license to account must go separate and may not be connected - sanctions towards the account may not influence the license of product s.

I never understood why anyone would spend money for a game where they have to login and ask Valve's permission every time they would like to play it. When I spend money to "buy" a game it should be mine. When you "buy" a game associated with Valve you are essentially renting it. Unfortunately millions of players do not seem to mind having Valve monitor their every movement and are actually willing to pay Valve to invade their privacy.

Apparently now, at least in the US, players will not even be able to complain. Has the gaming world really become that submissive? You don't have to be connected to the internet or to Valve after a game has been downloaded to play. Being connected enables certain features like cloud saves, online multiplayer, and a few other small things.

You can play 'Offline' without issue. I have done it with many games. I don't know why anyone would want to sue valve. Games are not harmful, though under developed brains may be affected by certain violent games. However in general games are harmless. Valve steam is a DRM. It was initially part of VAC, which got expanded. While anti-cheats for specific online games are very often welcome by community, Valve's system turned into a watch-god from a watch dog.

While you can use offline mode, Steam must be running and be updated to current version. Because it will log what you do - its basically a legit closed source trojan. I know this is off-topic but I really want to see someone that is a Christian Jewish Muslim. It would be hilarious to see them try to explain or preach about their beliefs.

I mean that they combine Christianity with Judaism and Islam. That would be something to see. Steam needs to stop before it is too late if it is not already too late. Companies do not have the ability to stop you from choosing not to buy their products or to support them.

What these companies are doing is forgetting that they are not in charge and that a plane needs fuel to run. They are trying to fly a plane without the fuel that it needs. Without fuel, a plane cannot fly and will crash. Steam needs to take a bath because their lies are stinking up the place.

Steam should also take off their hood because they are doing some shady business. Do not be afraid. Go after Steam and others like it because they need the customers to buy their products in order to stay in business. It may seem like they have you where they want you, but the truth is that it is impossible for them to have the upper-hand because they need us or they will not make any money.

As the customers, we will always have them where we want them. We can tell them to fix something and threaten to leave if they do not fix it anytime we want to. They cannot tell us no. They have no leverage over us. If we follow through with our threats they will be defeated. They want you to think that you can do nothing about it. You can take the fight to them by not buying any of their further products.

They will destroy themselves. Class action lawsuits with Steam is not an issue for me because of the rarity of anything serious happening. Do you really think Valve is going to stir things up so much in this area that all subscribers will leave? Don't think so. To me the big issues with Steam are twofold: Most of them say, "released " or something like that, which means they were released to Steam in but the game was originally released in !

I like organizing my games in one place but not all of them are available through Steam. You can't have everything in one place, because this place belongs to Valve and some titles will not be available. Because of the purchase price issue. A perfect place to organize your titles would be your hard drive and the confirmations to have purchased the license for all the titles you have, should legality be questioned.

Steam is a monopoly in the games industry, they as stated in your article are now dictating to gamers how you play the games and how much you pay for them, this is in effect sapping every penny out of the addicted gamers out there, I am one of the lucky ones in that i have not bought any games from steam as observing my sons games he has purchased a lot of them do not work correctly, a lot of new games now need a steam account to play them this is outrageous as when you have completed the game you cannot sell it to help fund a new game as it has been registered and cannot be played by anyone else, a lot of youngsters out there are still painfully unaware of this and are then out of pocket when they have finished the game in effect have to throw the game away, In my view it should be if not already be illegal for any company to tell you whether or not you can sell a game if you want to, it is after all your property you have not hired or rented the game from any one.

I have to agree with your sentiment. I have despised steam since DAY 1! See, here's a lil of MY personal history with the mega giant now known as steam. What if I am on the road, or in an aircraft, or at a LAN party, or any of the other probable millions of other situations where I may be, where I may not have internets! I do realize now this is almost a non-thought, but back when HL2 first launched it was more "real".

Even today it can be very real to me, say I'm camping in the mountains - nope, sorry, can't tether from my phone there! I don't very much like that idea either, seeing as I DO tend to re-visit some of the "classics" from time to time especially at LAN parties. I'll admit this is probably not a concern for most, or most probably can't even imagine "the day Steam 'dies'". But let me assure you, ALL good things come to an end.

Okay, so re-visiting "old" games may not be high on many peoples list, but it is mine. That's not just a concern for me, but I can archive all my data and pass that down to my kids, and they can do the same and pass it to their kids and so on and so on. However, again, if SOME day steam dies, where will all these games go!?

Luckily people HAVE found out how to "no-steam" a game! I will admit, I like it better than the "official" version. Why is quite simple. I am doing! So now here I am, still "hating" not really liking steam. I do this for a few reasons. Now to read they are pulling s! Doesn't come as much of a surprise really to be honest!

I also understand many in the "intellectual property rights" software developers will exclaim how even though you "buy the game" you still do not "own the game". I have the box, manual, and disc. So I think about the only thing that would keep me content with steam is some kind of written and fully legal guarantee that whatever game s we purchase and add to our library, we can have continued access and use regardless of Steam or the steam "service".

ALL of them require you to not only have steam installed but also "open" running prior to launching the game. That also in turn means you NEED an internet connection. Sadly we know that will not happen either. So, for the meantime I will continue to "bootleg" just like everyone else, as a means to give the game a "test drive" before I determine whether it's worth actually purchasing.

If it IS worth the purchase at least I know I will have a copy sitting in an archive somewhere that I will be able to play regardless of steam! If I do not like it, well no biggie there, simple resolution, I do not give them my money, and I delete the "free copy"! I'm no "cracker" myself, so I'm not sure exactly how the "crack artists" "crack" steam games to run without it, but I do hope one day "they" make a steam emulator so that you can just run said steam emulator THAT would be an excellent answer to this problem if it hasn't already been done.

Funny thing though about this whole thing is, from what I can even recall from my own memories from that very day I came rushing home with the HL2 in box. I wouldn't, to this day, doubt that the main reason steam came about, was as an anti-piracy measure. Sure it's developed into this "awesome" platform for digital distribution that SO many people have come to LOVE, but I think that's what it's become because even IT fails at "copy protection".

Why do I say that? Same for like movies, and netflix or hulu. People who aren't going to buy your game, simply aren't going to buy your game or any form of "media" or "intellectual property". This is also regardless of whether they "pirate" it or not too. NO, no they don't! Secondly here's your full circle catch So they resort to "piracy".

Now I know there are still some people like me who will "pirate" something first to see if they like it and, if they don't they'll delete it, or if they do, they'll "pay for it". Let me ask you, which is easier? Like some kind of assurance THEY can't change their mind about something or have a huge system failure of their own that inhibits me from playing my own games.

I would not pay it, that's for sure! That has also been a concern of mine since day one of steam "coming out". Since they're not - I'd tread ahead with heavy caution! No way! It doesn't matter that they may never do any of these things, or anything along those lines. They should NOT hold that kind of power. To literally be able to steal millions if not billions if not trillions of dollars accrued over time by one fell swoop!

We'd be out that money with no game to play to show for it, and they would still have FAT pockets! Me, no thank you. I'd MUCH rather buy that game in the box at a store one that does NOT require steam , or even "pirate" my copy, at least I know god forbid they ever DID chose to do any of those things or their time just 'naturally' comes to an end I'll still have a game to play!

There is a Steam emulator right at this very moment. It does exactly as you describe it; it acts like the hideously horrendous terrible program Steam, and fools the games into running without it. And it even allows you LAN play! And you don't need two accounts owning the same damned game to play it.

Yeah, but it's crap. It only supposedly runs cracked games on steam. This is strange. TPB is also distributing and supporting malware. I had once recieved a legit copy of No one lives forever 2 from the convention. I got one from "confirmed uploader" and my KAV reported installer to be infected with a root kit.

After I explained everything on TBP forum including the logs, the last response was "we decided to take no action" and locked the topic. It all comes down to trust. I myself believe that they are a company that wants to expand the gaming community by giving customers an excellent service and allowing indie developers to grow so in my mind right now they have no intention on screwing anyone over and only making sure they don't somehow get screwed over by keeping an updated terms and service.

Only problem with steam I have is that it decides it needs to reinstall directx everytime I want to play a game. Also not all my games even launch. There's a reason it does that, Jacky. DirectX is or was updated almost on a monthly basis; when Steam re-installs DirectX, it installs the version that was "current" at the time the game was released, to try to make sure the game will run.

Thats BS, because some play Windows games not on Windows. Such forced installation method is awkward. This is also not how DX is designed. DX is COM-based. It drops libraries incrementally and registers their new GUIDs. When application is launched, unless desired, the latest GUID is picked.

Old versions are just not called. I bought the CD version of HalfLife 2 a long time ago. I love the game but sometimes it sits dormant. I've rebuilt computers, changed email address etc.. Try to reactivate your Steam account after you've cancelled the email that it was tied to. There is no number and support is a long process of emails until they get around to your problem.

I've had nothing but problems on Steam. Give me a box with CD's and a CD key any day of the week. I don't need the Steam social or constant Store environment. This is why I tied my Steam account to an email address that I'm never going to change. That is to say, instead of tying it to an email account on my ISP's server, I tied it to a gmail account.

You can easily allow multiple computers to access the same Steam account via the SafeGuard system you just have to make sure the email account that is associated with your Steam account is correct, because it will send a verification email when you try to connect from the new computer ; and you can change your account's email address through the preferences.

It's not as huge a problem as you make it out to be. I also am done buying games from Steam. Does Valve give a damn? Not in the slightest. Does their joke of a customer "support" system offer even ONE viable solution to the issue? Did I ever even get the game in question? This company has turned into a total joke. Will never buy another game from them again as long as I live, and I will actively be going out of my way to convince others of the same.

Well, i've used steam and all of my games are free I'd not give steam money But using steam is better than update the game manually THAT, in fact, is one of the better features of Steam. You know that whatever version you downloaded is kept current, without having to search for and install patches manually. With Steam, you just tell it not to install that particular DLC.

Steam is the reason piracy isn't really a problem for PC gaming. Affordable prices and ease of access mean piracy is just "not worth the effort. With Steam, piracy will just go up. Piracy is nothing else, but sharing digital data. Steam is data, license and DRM. Do a bit of research before you post stupid comment than look in the mirror and you'll see retard.

What if a person that bought the game had a laptop which I do that was deliberately built to NOT have an internet connection. I'm a writer and I do not like having my writings subjected to the possibility of being hacked or affected by viruses or worms. I have other computers I use for that. I also sometimes have installed games on that computer from CDs and had I tried to install Steams Skyrim Legendary Edition it would not have worked.

What I find particularly vile about this is that apparently folks that buy the game for a console such as X Box don't have to have the Steam internet connection but PC users do. It is just wrong. So, they don't get any of my business. If you bought it I've never purchased a game through Steam. My kids bought me a birthday present a year ago, Skyrim the Legendary Edition.

I've played scores of games and have a pretty good library of them, including Oblivion. I absolutely LOVE those guys. I was unpleasantly surprised and angry that Skyrim, which I intended to play off-line, HAD to be linked to an on-line account. What I don't like about it is that when steam goes down, my game goes down too even though my game is entirely loaded on my computer.

Having said that I do think Steam is phenomena that will fade away because there are a lot of avid gamers such as the author of the above article who do not like being tied to some on-line company that can just shut them off from games they purchased. I also do not think Steam can avoid the biggest obstacle to their doing that. It amounts to taking peoples' money to BUY games that they can lose at the stroke of a key back at Steam.

It amounts to theft. It would be like going down to your local GMC dealer, buying a car and paying cash for it but the keys for driving it are kept at the dealership which retains the power to never let you have the keys if you don't agree to their terms for allowing you to use the car. All this will do is lead to more and more folks using piracy cracking codes to break the Steam connection.

Steam, no matter how strong they may seem to be now, will fade away. I, for one, won't be buying any of their games. Simple there is a law that prevent's a force of change of terms with anyone if the one being forced to change disagrees or does not wish to change terms they do not have to. Is it a mobile phone and tablet crap thing? Must be, it's so ugly. Steam stole my account, I tried the new watch a third party play feature and found that my old account was deleted.

When I tried to play it, Steam said I needed permission from the account they deleted. There "support" is send in a complaint to be deletedno person anywhere in sight. Fraud, real theft and Identity theft all at the same time. Ok, I read the article and read the comments. The favorite one that I have read and that people are so WRONG about is the one that, they bought the game and that it is theirs to do with as they please You buy the right to play the software, but you don't actually by the software.

Its just like music, you buy the CD, and while that gives you right to do what you want to the CD, like scratch it and stomp on it, buying it does not give you right to copy the music and distribute it like you see fit So that is where that argument goes out the window..

With Steam you are forgoing the physical copy and buying the right to use the software.. I think Matt Smith is really smoking crack for the most part Companies change the TOS all the time Steam is doing nothing wrong Also they have many games that you cannot buy anymore or cannot find anywhere except on The way your present it is as if it is a bad thing that they sell the software because you don't like the fact that you don't buy the physical games but only the licenses to those games..

So go back to the rock you attempted to climb out of You may not agree with some things Steam does I don't think so as there is Impluse and Gamestops online service as well as Direct 2 Drive If you read their initial agreements you will find that they are similar to Steams. It is amazing what people think they know and what they believe, and what reality is Its basically a way for them to CYA and its not a bad one if you really think about it My legal scholar friend said the reason the Cell companies added it, was to stop all the frivolus suits being filed under Class Action for distracted driving, cell phone cancer and so on So Matt, go back under the hole you crawled out, and sue and or not buy software from Steam, but you will see that you won't be able to buy as many games as you are used to, as many are in print much shorter than movies and don't stay in print when they are gone I bet you are younger than 40 and probably don't remember what life was like..

I smell a special law coming, just like for rockfeller. I mean, infinite profit from zero expense with the artist getting nearly nothing is unreasonable. Having read Ryan's bloviating screed, even though my comments are a year behind his and I doubt he'll ever read them, I find myself moved to comment on his lack of logic. I am NOT just renting the right to listen to that music.

I buy a microwave over and plop it on my counter it is MINE and the company that produced doesn't have the right to enter my home and take it away from me because I decide I don't like their policy changes. If I buy a video game I am NOT just buying a license to play the game that some company can just take away from me at its whim.

Well, what if my computer didn't have an on-line link? That means we bought and paid for a game I can't play? No company, EVER, should have the power to take away games you bought and paid for. Your logic, Ryan, is Illogic and I think if pressed in a courtroom, Steam's Gestapo tactics would be criminal and amount to theft.

Imagine buying and paying for a car with cash and not being able to drive it because the dealership keeps the keys. You have to call up the dealership and one of their employees drives to your house when you want to drive YOUR car. And then, when you climb into the car to drive it, the employee climbs in too because he HAS to make sure you don't do anything with the car that violates your agreements for use of the car.

So you have to drive around taking this employee of the dealership with you wherever you go when you want to use your car. At the end of the day you get to park your car in your garage where you can admire it but can't drive it while the employee of the dealership takes your car keys and he then drives back to the dealership. What happens when all the dealerships agents are busy?

Well, you don't get to drive your car, which is effectively what happened to me when I tried installing Skyrim and found that Steam's computers were down. I kept trying and it took several days to finagle things so I could even get registered. Clearly Ryan's glowing endorsement of Steams piss poor service seems to indicate he's a loyal employee. I agree. Physical media, Digital content and delivery platform and bound account are three different things.

Oh my, you so full of shit it must be coming out of your ears. And, I am 65 y. Beside, you cannot "go back under the hole" but YOU can crawl under the stone: Since i can no longer buy most of them from retailers. And now most of the games sold in stores require Steam. I've not read the current Terms of Service until It did trouble me that a whatever you buy on steam is a license, not the actual product and b I've never actually seen a Terms of Service that so explicitly spells out that you're giving up your right to participate in a class action lawsuit.

I've grown accustomed to the ease of use, cheap prices, and ease of use of steam. That's not too bad so far, but your article solidified my particular concerns, and I'll certainly have to think about what to do from here on out. The people who have it the worst are the ones who have amassed a huge backlog of games that they haven't played.

Fortunately I am not one of those people, as I've mostly been sticking with disc releases for AAA titles. But I am definitely in that situation when it comes to a pile of PSN titles more of the independent stuff Steam along with Origin pretty much have a monopoly over the PC gaming industry. It's ridiculous already because, you can't play your games offline with full capability as you would a console.

With my PS3 Games, I can play my games, regardless of what account I have them on, and play them offline. That's the beauty of console gaming. When you purchase a game, it's yours, it's on a hard copy, a disc. With Steam, you have to log into the same bloody account for the rest of your life, until you die.

After that, the games are lost because you were the only one who had access to them. To support a point that has already been stated, Valve owns the games ultimately. You simply leased them. PC gaming has many advantages, but I feel that because they're locked into steam, and online that ultimately, it's just a money sucking industry that tricks people into putting their valuables into a system that controls everything.

Buy a hard copy of your game on ps3 or xbox, make sure a PC game can be played without steam. I think I've decided to not buy games on steam anymore, and that I think I will choose to abandon my steam account. I don't support Steam anymore, nor do I support PC gaming. No, actually, Valve does NOT own the games. The company that wrote them assuming they're still in business does. Nor are you "leasing" the games The ownership of the software remains with the original authors.

This is nothing new. Rockstar can take away your license to play GTA V. This means that NO You just happen to own the disc it's on, and permission to use one copy of it. Its EULA. It outlines the rights you purchased.

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It's ridiculous. I live in Cleveland now and came across a Peaches record crate at a local used record store and almost asked if I could buy it! They don't care how long.

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